刘正成先生该冷静一下了（作者：王根权）

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王羲之书法

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9 a5 O9 A. Z1 |7 u. w; U8 K" G, h1959年，沈伊默倡议成立”上海中国书法篆刻研究会“，在陈毅同志和魏文伯同志的关心支持以及方行同志的具体指导下，1960年秋组建筹委会，1961年4月8日”上海中国书法篆刻研究会“正式宣告成立。沈尹默任主任委员，共有会员80余人。1981年改名为“中国书法家协会上海分会”，即今天的”上海市书法家协会“。
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确切地说应该称作:刘正成书法年代.
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王羲之书法

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阿拉木

原帖由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 19:16 发表

                               
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看了这个帖子,正反两方面的观点都有,wgGoL
一方为远刘派,一方为亲刘派书法网(SHUFA.org) 中国书法艺术第一门户网站,以网络复兴书法为目标，求同存异，成为书法家、专业书法工作者、书法爱好者的第一网络书法互动平台。书法,中国书法,书法论坛,书画商城,书法作品,书法大赛C
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青凯当是看刘派,意思是我是在看,在观察;Q#V a?(I?
刘先生的确为当代书法做了很多工作,功不可没,如果自己不出来说,他的功劳可能会更大.书法网 | 书艺公社 | 交流论坛?-cG/S(Fs
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7 v8 k: J8 U1 k8 D* {; C一个“做了许多工作”且“功不可没”的人，却一直得到自己应有的正确评价，再不允许人家自己出来说说，这是在有些苛刻了。
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% ]5 o( n  e/ W6 \什么“刘正成时代”，明明该是“薛铸时代”啊——成立中国书协那“报告”都是俺薛铸起草的，没俺薛铸你们现在入哪门子书协em4 em4 em4 em4 em4
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1 k* q9 b5 n6 `其实，仔细想想，这几年除了这回这次公开的演讲之外，对于20几年来书法的事刘何时还说过呢？
在如我等百姓都可以上网说话的今天，比刘正成说的多的人那叫一个海了去了。

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原帖由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 20:23 发表

                               
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: M& k& Y+ M; s9 q看来柳先生并没真的去看。
中青展主张的是植根传统，张扬个性，这与“在传统上创新”应该是一回事的。
( a7 B5 W# H/ I' g, b  `0 p0 O' B" T现在写字为什么出名难？很简单，因为现在的书法环境变了，具体说，一是作为“出名”载体的书法展览现在太泛滥了。展览频繁泛滥，获奖人数也就跟着上涨。一年这么多的展览，这么多的人在获奖，大家记起这些人来自然就难了，大家记不住你，你还出什么名啊。以前二年才一中青展，四年论一国展，每次展览评10几个获奖的，谈展览时，想不提这10几个人都不行。被喜爱书法关心展览的人天天叨念着，他想不出名都难。
二是如今媒体太发达了。当年书法报纸刊物就那么几家，而且还不是周报就是双月刊。谁想站个版面宣传一下那得排队等着。现在呢，报刊多了，出版周期短了。不管谁，只要找人写个吹捧文章都可以找到发表的地方。实在不行，还可以自己换个马甲贴网上来。看着是大家都露了脸都有了名，但什么一多了也就没价值和影响了。

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, h( h1 F& a# V. V              王根权先生口口声声说“依据”一词，请问如下：
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        一、“刘正成先生的依据是周明华先生的一句话。这句话可靠吗？不可靠。周明华先生说这话，是什么地方说的，什么场合说的，真正的意思是什么，都有待考证。在这个问题上他是局外人，他对历史事实不了解，情有可原。”一言中说周明华先生是“局外人”和“不了解”，请问你的“局外人”一说依据是什么?什么东东周明华先生“不了解”?是不是说周明华先生现在还未加入中国书协，所以不够资格?你也太轻率了吧。

  F/ o+ g1 i* s" n' c        二、“谁是中国书坛真正的创坛者呢？薛铸先生关于中国书协的成立有一篇回忆文章，其中有关中国书协成立相关的人物和事件说的清清楚楚。这里我们将中国书协的起根发苗作以简述。”一篇回忆文章就断定“中国书坛真正的创坛者”是因“中国书协的起根发苗”。否！我只记得一句，创造历史的是人民群众，而不是某个人和单位。
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        三、我赞同“刘正成时代”一说，其实也只是一个符号，记忆而已。你说的“以自己的名字命名这个书法时代严肃吗？”会让人联想政治运动，不好！自古就有宋四家、竹林七贤、书法二王、龙门十二品、书圣、诗仙等等，其实这些都是虚名，都是一个符号，记忆而已！它和人的津贴、级别、职称、劳模、冠军没有什何关系。你想记就记，不想记也没有人为难你。就我就号称：“老牌正宗水墨书评玩家”，也是一个记忆符号，你把它看低了就没什么，看高了，当成中国第一、世界第一的“老牌正宗水墨书评玩家黔墨”！内心肯定不平衡。

9 J" C) R: M. Y8 {' q+ _        四、你说“希望刘先生能冷静下来，不要将功利看得太重，以平常心待人，以平常心处事。这样以来，还是可以为中国的书法事业做些工作的”。刘正成先生的发言稿，其实也是“中国的书法事业做些(宣传和普及)工作的”，虽然带有个人特色，也还是很有人情味的，网上欢迎者盛。刘先生退下来以后，多年来一直是以“以平常心待人，以平常心处事”的，请你多看看他参与的活动和做的事就能说明。值书法网成立五周年，他受邀出来为书法爱好者免费做些回忆和书法的讲演，就是不冷静，就是将功利看得重了?王先生也未免牵强了些吧。难道说一个书法家成天呆在家里不说话，一年四季放不出一个屁来，才就是“能冷静下来，不将功利看得太重”的表现吗?什么叫做“为人民服务”?其实就是一个动词“为”字，要有“为”才有“为”。

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