刘正成先生该冷静一下了（作者：王根权）

繁體字

值得讨论。
我的观点倾向于作者。

王羲之书法

山水居:
/ ?4 h4 g& s. Q4 d1959年，沈伊默倡议成立”上海中国书法篆刻研究会“，在陈毅同志和魏文伯同志的关心支持以及方行同志的具体指导下，1960年秋组建筹委会，1961年4月8日”上海中国书法篆刻研究会“正式宣告成立。沈尹默任主任委员，共有会员80余人。1981年改名为“中国书法家协会上海分会”，即今天的”上海市书法家协会“。
4 K1 Y' r/ u$ y! s0 e/ O8 K这比”陕西省书法研究室“至少早了12年吧？em4 em4 em4

黄记文

确切地说应该称作:刘正成书法年代.
时代有政权更替含义.

王羲之书法

[whitepad]***700;400;700,400;;#30c;15; m19,100 l34,100,34,102,32,103,31,104,31,105,23,105,23,99,24,99,24,98,25,97,25,98,26,98 e|********* m25,151 l37,151,37,152,36,152,36,149,34,149,33,150,32,150,31,151,31,152,29,152,28,151,30,151 e|********* m19,233 l20,232,23,230,25,230,26,229,27,229,30,226,31,226,35,222,36,222,36,221,37,221,37,200,38,199,39,199,39,198,40,198,40,197,41,197,41,196,43,195 44,195,44,194,45,194,45,193,46,193,46,191,47,190,49,187,49,178,50,178 e|********* m68,55 l68,59,69,61,70,62,71,64,72,65,72,94,73,94,73,95,74,96,75,96,76,98,77,98,77,99,78,99 e|********* m58,103 l60,103,60,102,61,102,70,101,71,101,71,100,73,99,74,99,75,98,75,97,77,96,78,96,78,94,79,94,80,93 e|********* m113,40 l113,54,112,55,112,57,111,59,110,60,110,64,109,64,108,65,108,67,107,67,107,68,106,69,106,70,105,70,105,71,103,73,102,75,102,76,100,82,100,83 99,84,99,87,98,87,98,91,97,91,97,94,96,95 e|********* m101,75 l114,75,118,74,124,74,132,72,130,73,127,75 e|********* m58,115 l60,117,62,120,63,121,63,122,75,122,76,121,76,120,78,119,80,119,80,118,82,118,83,117,85,117,85,116,88,116,88,115,105,115,107,114,109,114,110,113 112,113,113,112,113,111,114,110,115,110,115,109,116,108,120,106,121,105,121,104,123,104,124,103,124,102,125,101,126,101,126,99,127,99,128,98,128,97,127,97 110,107,107,109,105,111,101,114,100,116,99,117,98,119,97,120,97,121,96,121,95,123,94,123,94,124,92,124,92,126,90,126,90,127,89,128,88,128,87,129 87,130,84,132,83,134,81,137,77,141,73,147,71,151,70,152,65,159,65,161,63,161,63,163,62,163,60,165,54,174,53,174,52,175,52,177,51,177,50,178 50,179,49,179,48,180,48,177 e|********* m73,145 l73,259,75,259,75,256 e|********* m79,195 l79,188,83,184,83,182,85,180,87,179,89,177,106,163,107,161,108,161,110,160,111,159,113,158,114,158,116,156,118,155,119,154,120,154,122,153,122,152,123,151 123,150,124,150,124,136,125,136,125,135 e|********* m112,110 l112,255,111,254,105,249 e|********* m78,204 l79,202,86,202,94,200,97,199,98,199,102,197,105,194,106,194,108,192,109,192,115,188,118,187,119,187,120,186,122,186,123,185,125,185,129,184,128,185,128,186 127,186,114,197,111,199,107,203,100,209,98,211,94,214,93,216,92,216,91,217,91,219,88,222,83,226,82,227,104,227,112,225,114,225,114,224,116,224,116,223 118,223,119,222,120,222,120,221,121,221,123,220,123,219,126,218,127,218,127,217,125,217,123,218,120,219 e|********* m88,254 l89,258,94,258,100,256,101,254,107,253,112,253,112,252,118,252,122,251,122,250,123,250,123,249,124,249,126,246,128,246,128,245,129,245,129,244,132,243,133,243 133,242,135,242,135,240,136,240,136,239,137,239,137,237,135,237,129,235 e|********* m35,199 l35,202,34,202,34,203,32,204,31,206,29,206,26,210,25,211,25,213,24,213,24,215,23,215,23,216,21,220,20,220,20,221,19,222,19,224,18,224,18,229 17,229,17,230,16,230,16,241,31,241,33,240,33,239,34,239,34,236,35,236,35,231,36,231,36,206,37,206,37,198,38,196,40,194,44,188,44,187,45,186 45,177 e|********* m249,74 l255,74,255,129,256,130,256,212,255,212,255,214,254,218,254,221,253,221,252,226,252,228,251,229,251,231,250,231,250,232,249,232,249,234,248,234,248,235,241,235 241,234,239,234,239,233,234,230,233,230,233,229,230,229,230,228,229,228,226,225,223,223,222,223,222,222,221,222,221,221 e|********* m184,136 l186,136,186,135,187,134,190,132,193,132,197,130,198,129,200,129,201,128,201,126,204,124,205,123,208,121,214,120,215,120,215,119,216,119,218,117,218,127,217,129 217,184,216,184,216,195,215,195,215,199,214,200,214,202,213,202,213,203,212,203,212,204,210,206,210,204,209,204,209,200 e|********* m307,95 l307,96,306,96,306,97,305,97,303,99,303,100,301,101,299,103,296,107,293,110,286,119,283,122,283,123,281,125,281,126,280,126,279,127,279,129,278,129,275,132 274,134,270,138,268,139,268,140,267,141,266,141,264,143,259,147,252,147 e|********* m248,137 l256,137,268,140,275,140,277,142,278,142,282,144,283,145,299,145,303,147,307,147,313,148,342,148,342,147,344,147,344,146,345,146,346,145,349,144,345,144 e|********* m376,119 l376,120,377,126,377,204 e|********* m378,204 l378,203 e|********* m367,118 l371,111,372,111,379,107,382,105,392,101,394,99,395,99,398,97,399,97,399,96,402,96,402,196,401,196 e|********* m378,156 l380,156,380,155,382,154,383,154,387,152,388,152,388,151,389,150,391,150,395,148,394,149,392,150 e|********* m376,203 l381,203,381,202,382,202,387,200,388,199,389,199,394,195,395,194,395,192,396,191,396,190,397,190,399,188,401,188,402,187,405,183,402,183 e|********* m428,106 l428,105,429,105,430,103,431,103,436,97,438,96,439,95,441,95,441,94,442,93,443,93,443,92,444,92,448,88,449,88,449,86,450,86,450,85,452,85,452,84 454,83,454,82,456,82,456,81,457,81,457,80 e|********* m447,39 l447,130 e|********* m402,143 l403,145,403,146,404,146,406,147,412,147,413,146,413,145,418,143,422,140,425,139,426,138,431,136,431,135,441,128,445,124,452,119,453,118,453,117,454,117,457,115 458,114,465,110,473,105,473,104,474,104,476,102,478,102,479,101,480,101,483,100,490,100,486,101 e|********* m420,173 l419,174,437,174,440,172,442,171,444,169,445,169,445,168,446,168,447,167,448,167,448,166,449,166,451,165,454,162,456,162,459,157,460,157,461,156,463,155,464,154 464,153,466,153,467,152,470,150,470,149,472,148,472,147,480,141,480,140,483,137,483,135,484,135,487,132,487,131,488,131,489,130,491,124,488,124,488,125 e|********* m465,116 l465,250,457,250,457,249,455,249,451,247,448,246,448,245,442,241,440,239,440,237,438,235,437,233,437,230,436,230,436,229,435,228,435,224 e|********* m424,185 l424,186,425,186,426,187,428,187,430,188,431,189,432,189,433,190,436,190,436,191,437,192,437,193,438,194,439,194,439,195 e|********* m439,194 l438,193 e|********* m559,102 l560,101,560,111,556,122,556,124,555,125,555,128,554,128,554,130,553,130,553,132,552,133,552,134,551,134,551,135,549,137,549,138,548,138,548,140,547,140,547,141 546,143,546,145,544,150,542,152,542,153,541,154,541,156,539,158,539,159,537,161,535,161,534,162,534,163,533,163,532,164,532,165,531,165 e|********* m531,165 l532,162 e|********* m551,144 l551,166,552,168,552,184,553,193,553,197,554,202,554,199 e|********* m553,173 l553,172,558,167,560,166,562,166,563,165,568,163,574,159,584,151,584,150,586,148,587,146,589,145,589,144,590,143,592,142,593,141,595,140,596,139,596,138,597,138 597,137,598,136,598,134,599,133,599,132,601,130,601,128,603,128,603,127,605,126,607,124,612,120,617,115,614,115 e|********* m563,75 l563,77,564,78,564,79,566,83,567,84,567,85,571,96,578,110,589,130,590,130,590,131,592,142,593,143,593,147,594,148,595,150,597,153,597,154,598,156,600,158 604,165,611,177,612,178,614,181,615,181,615,182,617,185,619,186,619,187,620,188,622,189,622,191,624,193,624,194,626,195,627,197,629,198,630,198,631,199,631,200 632,200,632,201,634,203,634,204,637,207,639,208,640,209,642,210,642,211,643,211,643,212,644,212,645,213,646,215,651,218,653,219,653,220,655,221,658,221,666,225 670,225,670,223,671,222,673,218,673,216,674,215,674,177,669,177 e|********* m624,77 l627,77,627,85,626,85,626,82 e[/whitepad]

王羲之书法

em4 em4 em4 em4 em22 em22 em22 em22

国学馆

em1 face13 em13

阿拉木

原帖由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 19:16 发表

4 G/ n" W% G6 k9 I                               
登录/注册后可看大图

看了这个帖子,正反两方面的观点都有,wgGoL
  ^! Y6 v/ R  J( J* ]- A一方为远刘派,一方为亲刘派书法网(SHUFA.org) 中国书法艺术第一门户网站,以网络复兴书法为目标，求同存异，成为书法家、专业书法工作者、书法爱好者的第一网络书法互动平台。书法,中国书法,书法论坛,书画商城,书法作品,书法大赛C
! H6 @  h" a  }1 S6 E?w#ki
青凯当是看刘派,意思是我是在看,在观察;Q#V a?(I?
刘先生的确为当代书法做了很多工作,功不可没,如果自己不出来说,他的功劳可能会更大.书法网 | 书艺公社 | 交流论坛?-cG/S(Fs
$ P( E- `- R" m5 ^正因为先生近两年出来说的太多,才是我对先生先前的好印象稍减| 中国书法艺术第一门户网站g7V,x*\zN`
_ y#Y7N5e4[
% d  z  {. k7 A- T当代书坛一直都在进步,| 中国书法艺术第一门户网站u k0Gu%Mz
) ]$ n' E. q! z- ]+ \& \书法

, C: y6 Z5 v& y* Z: p  t6 P5 ?

一个“做了许多工作”且“功不可没”的人，却一直得到自己应有的正确评价，再不允许人家自己出来说说，这是在有些苛刻了。
  \7 \, B* U8 I" R, a现在看看，这事其实搁谁谁也受不了。这里的王先生不是也在为那薛铸说吗？
什么“刘正成时代”，明明该是“薛铸时代”啊——成立中国书协那“报告”都是俺薛铸起草的，没俺薛铸你们现在入哪门子书协em4 em4 em4 em4 em4
4 r' j; Z& |. j: v% r5 c$ g
% g$ ^  G% B# j其实，仔细想想，这几年除了这回这次公开的演讲之外，对于20几年来书法的事刘何时还说过呢？
3 s% n0 N/ |! B' X! b在如我等百姓都可以上网说话的今天，比刘正成说的多的人那叫一个海了去了。

阿拉木

原帖由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 20:23 发表

, C: V- [2 K6 ^, C: O  m                               
登录/注册后可看大图

很早就看过了，过去主张创新，只要有新意就能出名，
现在不一样，现在主张在传统上创新
现在写字的出名为什么难了，因为现在的书法发展了，要求严格了，曾兄以为何？em13

2 O% ]% q: ^1 W! h7 f$ \
9 _+ m- a& g$ C* N. c

3 q0 L8 d" N$ y看来柳先生并没真的去看。
中青展主张的是植根传统，张扬个性，这与“在传统上创新”应该是一回事的。
现在写字为什么出名难？很简单，因为现在的书法环境变了，具体说，一是作为“出名”载体的书法展览现在太泛滥了。展览频繁泛滥，获奖人数也就跟着上涨。一年这么多的展览，这么多的人在获奖，大家记起这些人来自然就难了，大家记不住你，你还出什么名啊。以前二年才一中青展，四年论一国展，每次展览评10几个获奖的，谈展览时，想不提这10几个人都不行。被喜爱书法关心展览的人天天叨念着，他想不出名都难。
二是如今媒体太发达了。当年书法报纸刊物就那么几家，而且还不是周报就是双月刊。谁想站个版面宣传一下那得排队等着。现在呢，报刊多了，出版周期短了。不管谁，只要找人写个吹捧文章都可以找到发表的地方。实在不行，还可以自己换个马甲贴网上来。看着是大家都露了脸都有了名，但什么一多了也就没价值和影响了。

黔墨

      

              王根权先生口口声声说“依据”一词，请问如下：
, u) _5 z: y5 W6 ?! m. Z8 |
        一、“刘正成先生的依据是周明华先生的一句话。这句话可靠吗？不可靠。周明华先生说这话，是什么地方说的，什么场合说的，真正的意思是什么，都有待考证。在这个问题上他是局外人，他对历史事实不了解，情有可原。”一言中说周明华先生是“局外人”和“不了解”，请问你的“局外人”一说依据是什么?什么东东周明华先生“不了解”?是不是说周明华先生现在还未加入中国书协，所以不够资格?你也太轻率了吧。

        二、“谁是中国书坛真正的创坛者呢？薛铸先生关于中国书协的成立有一篇回忆文章，其中有关中国书协成立相关的人物和事件说的清清楚楚。这里我们将中国书协的起根发苗作以简述。”一篇回忆文章就断定“中国书坛真正的创坛者”是因“中国书协的起根发苗”。否！我只记得一句，创造历史的是人民群众，而不是某个人和单位。

        三、我赞同“刘正成时代”一说，其实也只是一个符号，记忆而已。你说的“以自己的名字命名这个书法时代严肃吗？”会让人联想政治运动，不好！自古就有宋四家、竹林七贤、书法二王、龙门十二品、书圣、诗仙等等，其实这些都是虚名，都是一个符号，记忆而已！它和人的津贴、级别、职称、劳模、冠军没有什何关系。你想记就记，不想记也没有人为难你。就我就号称：“老牌正宗水墨书评玩家”，也是一个记忆符号，你把它看低了就没什么，看高了，当成中国第一、世界第一的“老牌正宗水墨书评玩家黔墨”！内心肯定不平衡。
7 M5 @) m. v$ }
% A+ ], d# F" P        四、你说“希望刘先生能冷静下来，不要将功利看得太重，以平常心待人，以平常心处事。这样以来，还是可以为中国的书法事业做些工作的”。刘正成先生的发言稿，其实也是“中国的书法事业做些(宣传和普及)工作的”，虽然带有个人特色，也还是很有人情味的，网上欢迎者盛。刘先生退下来以后，多年来一直是以“以平常心待人，以平常心处事”的，请你多看看他参与的活动和做的事就能说明。值书法网成立五周年，他受邀出来为书法爱好者免费做些回忆和书法的讲演，就是不冷静，就是将功利看得重了?王先生也未免牵强了些吧。难道说一个书法家成天呆在家里不说话，一年四季放不出一个屁来，才就是“能冷静下来，不将功利看得太重”的表现吗?什么叫做“为人民服务”?其实就是一个动词“为”字，要有“为”才有“为”。

2 u4 ~" B8 \6 |1 G5 f